The pursuit of the truth is vital. The pursuit of justice may be possible with any number of ideas about how illness spreads. It's important to keep an eye on the goals.
Yes, understanding the truth about illness is important. It's also important to have a way to reduce the attacks on people today, and if that requires political actions, having the acceptance of many people could be important. So it matters in that context how we pursue the truth. Alienating people who would otherwise help may be part of the point.
In the last few years the "flat earth" group seems to have inspired the "no virus" group to be more vocal. Good. There is also now a "nuclear weapons don't exist" group which is actually offensive to people who have lost relatives to the bomb tests. Scepticism is fine, but some people are rude.
Sorry to post yet another time, I was reading your post on “being a tyrant” - and I would just say that if the danish government had acted even a scintilla of that draconic as eg us or Canada (not to mention China, Australia or other places), I would also have been very much antipathetic towards those whom we elected to look out and take care of us citizens.
Thanks again! The more comments the better. Seriously! It is the only way for me to get more attention to my writing. It helps the algorithm! It was a huge mistake because our government has lost so much credibility. And where I live they keep on trying to bring all of it back. The media won't shut up about respiratory viruses, and a friend of mine who is in healthcare and who was sent home for not taking the transfection, only just recently was allowed to come back to work. And then they brought back masks and she has left again. The program she was working in, which was to spend time with seniors, is going to be canceled because without her they have no one. So it is more important to be right than to provide an important service in Canada! But nobody is biting so they can't bring the measures back. Very few people are wearing masks now despite all the fear that the media pushes. There is no trust whatsoever now.
“You can have two ideas at the same time. There’s no reason why you cannot. “
And yet so many people seem ‘unable’ (or maybe more plausible unwilling, knowingly or unknowingly). I perfectly understand peoples’ skepticism about this, and questioning is always good. And then base one’s decision on the facts presented - and changing if new reliable information occurs.
(“What would it take to change my mind?)
In my case, I suffer from a chronically heart disease and was admitted with a cardiac function of 10%. And a diabetes that makes insulin necessary (though I got it as adult, always in general has been eating healthy and exercised etc) as well as some severe mental conditions (amongst which suicidal if not treated), medication is a necessity if I want to live. And I’ve made my peace with that.
Our 7ys is chronically at risk of respiratory diseases because of lung disease he was born with and other stuff (and has just been admitted almost two months 5 weeks in ICU) . And my parents and family in law are also at high risks for serious illness in case of any infection. So for me, whether to get any vaccine or not, was and will continue to not be a question. Because in our case, the positives far outweigh any imaginary or possible negative side effects.
But also, I admit that though our health system is not perfect and I do not believe everything [and I’m NOT a fan of WHO/UN (or WEF btw ) ], I would be a lot more concerned with information about this if I lived in eg the U.S., because in Denmark we have a totally different regulation on medicine and the pharmaceutical industry. And also, our doctors are not affiliated with the industries or providing medication as I’ve learned things are at least in the U.S.
Also it probably helps to be a nerd who loves to read statistics and research studies 😏
Thanks for your comment! I am sorry to hear about this. I have had some negative experiences with pharmaceuticals, so I don't do a lot of it, and at this point I doubt I will ever see a doctor again, because they have lost my trust. But this was exactly the point in the article too, to say that there are "no viruses" ignores a lot of the people who would have every reason to fear viruses, end result, they are not interested in what you will say beyond that. If you like statistics I could probably suggest some other interesting substacks! And we could start a chat on my newsletter where we could discuss. You would need to subscribe to my substack for us to do chats!
The term "virus" used to mean a particle that had been PROVEN to cause disease. They'd never actually proven any of these particles were the actual cause, but at least they tried to produce a story (based upon fraud) to support the narrative. Now, we're supposed to believe that any particle they TELL US is causing disease, is in fact causing disease, no proof needed, and not even any real attempt to at least pretend they have any proof.
I firmly believe that literally ANY particle could APPEAR to be causing disease. But the underlying disease that allowed any particular particle to proliferate, is what we need to address, rather than only examining (or treating) the symptoms, i.e., more of a particular particle.
MALNUTRITION, attacks on the immune system (vaccines, which turn the immune system against our own body) and other toxic exposures, are REALLY what's making people sick.
there is a lot of cancel culture around these people which makes them not credible, that is for sure. One popular substacker blocked me for trying to talk about the subject politely, in the comments of one of her articles. The subject of the article where I left the comment was the Overton window. Is that ironic, or what?
ok. The film is linked in the article, that should help you to find the sources. I don't know what you would consider credible. I will link here again!
The pursuit of the truth is vital. The pursuit of justice may be possible with any number of ideas about how illness spreads. It's important to keep an eye on the goals.
Yes, understanding the truth about illness is important. It's also important to have a way to reduce the attacks on people today, and if that requires political actions, having the acceptance of many people could be important. So it matters in that context how we pursue the truth. Alienating people who would otherwise help may be part of the point.
In the last few years the "flat earth" group seems to have inspired the "no virus" group to be more vocal. Good. There is also now a "nuclear weapons don't exist" group which is actually offensive to people who have lost relatives to the bomb tests. Scepticism is fine, but some people are rude.
Sorry to post yet another time, I was reading your post on “being a tyrant” - and I would just say that if the danish government had acted even a scintilla of that draconic as eg us or Canada (not to mention China, Australia or other places), I would also have been very much antipathetic towards those whom we elected to look out and take care of us citizens.
Thanks again! The more comments the better. Seriously! It is the only way for me to get more attention to my writing. It helps the algorithm! It was a huge mistake because our government has lost so much credibility. And where I live they keep on trying to bring all of it back. The media won't shut up about respiratory viruses, and a friend of mine who is in healthcare and who was sent home for not taking the transfection, only just recently was allowed to come back to work. And then they brought back masks and she has left again. The program she was working in, which was to spend time with seniors, is going to be canceled because without her they have no one. So it is more important to be right than to provide an important service in Canada! But nobody is biting so they can't bring the measures back. Very few people are wearing masks now despite all the fear that the media pushes. There is no trust whatsoever now.
“You can have two ideas at the same time. There’s no reason why you cannot. “
And yet so many people seem ‘unable’ (or maybe more plausible unwilling, knowingly or unknowingly). I perfectly understand peoples’ skepticism about this, and questioning is always good. And then base one’s decision on the facts presented - and changing if new reliable information occurs.
(“What would it take to change my mind?)
In my case, I suffer from a chronically heart disease and was admitted with a cardiac function of 10%. And a diabetes that makes insulin necessary (though I got it as adult, always in general has been eating healthy and exercised etc) as well as some severe mental conditions (amongst which suicidal if not treated), medication is a necessity if I want to live. And I’ve made my peace with that.
Our 7ys is chronically at risk of respiratory diseases because of lung disease he was born with and other stuff (and has just been admitted almost two months 5 weeks in ICU) . And my parents and family in law are also at high risks for serious illness in case of any infection. So for me, whether to get any vaccine or not, was and will continue to not be a question. Because in our case, the positives far outweigh any imaginary or possible negative side effects.
But also, I admit that though our health system is not perfect and I do not believe everything [and I’m NOT a fan of WHO/UN (or WEF btw ) ], I would be a lot more concerned with information about this if I lived in eg the U.S., because in Denmark we have a totally different regulation on medicine and the pharmaceutical industry. And also, our doctors are not affiliated with the industries or providing medication as I’ve learned things are at least in the U.S.
Also it probably helps to be a nerd who loves to read statistics and research studies 😏
Thanks for your comment! I am sorry to hear about this. I have had some negative experiences with pharmaceuticals, so I don't do a lot of it, and at this point I doubt I will ever see a doctor again, because they have lost my trust. But this was exactly the point in the article too, to say that there are "no viruses" ignores a lot of the people who would have every reason to fear viruses, end result, they are not interested in what you will say beyond that. If you like statistics I could probably suggest some other interesting substacks! And we could start a chat on my newsletter where we could discuss. You would need to subscribe to my substack for us to do chats!
I haven' heard of this film. Must check it out. Thanks for the heads up Renee.
Leslie
there is a link to the film at the end of the article. Just in case you didn't notice
The term "virus" used to mean a particle that had been PROVEN to cause disease. They'd never actually proven any of these particles were the actual cause, but at least they tried to produce a story (based upon fraud) to support the narrative. Now, we're supposed to believe that any particle they TELL US is causing disease, is in fact causing disease, no proof needed, and not even any real attempt to at least pretend they have any proof.
I firmly believe that literally ANY particle could APPEAR to be causing disease. But the underlying disease that allowed any particular particle to proliferate, is what we need to address, rather than only examining (or treating) the symptoms, i.e., more of a particular particle.
MALNUTRITION, attacks on the immune system (vaccines, which turn the immune system against our own body) and other toxic exposures, are REALLY what's making people sick.
Ps with “credible” I mean as real scientific research, preferably from plural sources
there is a lot of cancel culture around these people which makes them not credible, that is for sure. One popular substacker blocked me for trying to talk about the subject politely, in the comments of one of her articles. The subject of the article where I left the comment was the Overton window. Is that ironic, or what?
Thanks so much for your comments!!!
ok. The film is linked in the article, that should help you to find the sources. I don't know what you would consider credible. I will link here again!
https://www.knowingthetruth.com/terrain-the-film-full-documentary/
You can also find one of their leaders right here on substack, here is a link: https://substack.com/@drsambailey
And I haven’t even heard of a “no-virus” group, any suggestions for credible sources for further information about this? (: